diff --git a/apps/alarm/ChangeLog b/apps/alarm/ChangeLog
index 9cf5972c4..a3a5dfc1c 100644
--- a/apps/alarm/ChangeLog
+++ b/apps/alarm/ChangeLog
@@ -50,3 +50,4 @@
 0.45: Fix new alarm when selectedAlarm is undefined
 0.46: Show alarm groups if the Show Group setting is ON.  Scroll alarms menu back to previous position when getting back to it.
 0.47: Fix wrap around when snoozed through midnight
+0.48: Use datetimeinput for Events, if available. Scroll back when getting out of group.  Menu date format setting for shorter dates on current year.
diff --git a/apps/alarm/README.md b/apps/alarm/README.md
index 43f72665e..77aa61d2c 100644
--- a/apps/alarm/README.md
+++ b/apps/alarm/README.md
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
 
 This app allows you to add/modify any alarms, timers and events.
 
-Optional: When a keyboard app is detected, you can add a message to display when any of these is triggered.
+Optional: When a keyboard app is detected, you can add a message to display when any of these is triggered.  If a datetime input app (e.g. datetime_picker) is detected, it will be used for the selection of the date+time of events.
 
 It uses the [`sched` library](https://github.com/espruino/BangleApps/blob/master/apps/sched) to handle the alarm scheduling in an efficient way that can work alongside other apps.
 
diff --git a/apps/alarm/app.js b/apps/alarm/app.js
index 3f9aaba68..64f233c5c 100644
--- a/apps/alarm/app.js
+++ b/apps/alarm/app.js
@@ -50,13 +50,17 @@ function handleFirstDayOfWeek(dow) {
 alarms.filter(e => e.timer === undefined).forEach(a => a.dow = handleFirstDayOfWeek(a.dow));
 
 function getLabel(e) {
-  const dateStr = e.date && require("locale").date(new Date(e.date), 1);
+  const dateStr = getDateText(e.date);
   return (e.timer
       ? require("time_utils").formatDuration(e.timer)
       : (dateStr ? `${dateStr}${e.rp?"*":""} ${require("time_utils").formatTime(e.t)}` : require("time_utils").formatTime(e.t) + (e.rp ? ` ${decodeRepeat(e)}` : ""))
       ) + (e.msg ? ` ${e.msg}` : "");
 }
 
+function getDateText(d) {
+  return d && (settings.menuDateFormat === "mmdd" ? d.substring(d.startsWith(new Date().getFullYear()) ? 5 : 0) : require("locale").date(new Date(d), 1));
+}
+
 function trimLabel(label, maxLength) {
   if(settings.showOverflow) return label;
   return (label.length > maxLength
@@ -75,10 +79,10 @@ function formatAlarmProperty(msg) {
   }
 }
 
-function showMainMenu(scroll, group) {
+function showMainMenu(scroll, group, scrollback) {
   const menu = {
     "": { "title": group || /*LANG*/"Alarms & Timers", scroll: scroll },
-    "< Back": () => group ? showMainMenu() : load(),
+    "< Back": () => group ? showMainMenu(scrollback) : load(),
     /*LANG*/"New...": () => showNewMenu(group)
   };
   const getGroups = settings.showGroup && !group;
@@ -98,7 +102,7 @@ function showMainMenu(scroll, group) {
   });
 
   if (!group) {
-    Object.keys(groups).sort().forEach(g => menu[g] = () => showMainMenu(null, g));
+    Object.keys(groups).sort().forEach(g => menu[g] = () => showMainMenu(null, g, scroller.scroll));
     menu[/*LANG*/"Advanced"] = () => showAdvancedMenu();
   }
 
@@ -119,6 +123,7 @@ function showNewMenu(group) {
 }
 
 function showEditAlarmMenu(selectedAlarm, alarmIndex, withDate, scroll, group) {
+  console.log(scroll);
   var isNew = alarmIndex === undefined;
 
   var alarm = require("sched").newDefaultAlarm();
@@ -138,6 +143,8 @@ function showEditAlarmMenu(selectedAlarm, alarmIndex, withDate, scroll, group) {
   var title = date ? (isNew ? /*LANG*/"New Event" : /*LANG*/"Edit Event") : (isNew ? /*LANG*/"New Alarm" : /*LANG*/"Edit Alarm");
   var keyboard = "textinput";
   try {keyboard = require(keyboard);} catch(e) {keyboard = null;}
+  var datetimeinput;
+  try {datetimeinput = require("datetimeinput");} catch(e) {datetimeinput = null;}
 
   const menu = {
     "": { "title": title },
@@ -145,41 +152,66 @@ function showEditAlarmMenu(selectedAlarm, alarmIndex, withDate, scroll, group) {
       prepareAlarmForSave(alarm, alarmIndex, time, date);
       saveAndReload();
       showMainMenu(scroll, group);
-    },
-    /*LANG*/"Hour": {
-      value: time.h,
-      format: v => ("0" + v).substr(-2),
-      min: 0,
-      max: 23,
-      wrap: true,
-      onchange: v => time.h = v
-    },
-    /*LANG*/"Minute": {
-      value: time.m,
-      format: v => ("0" + v).substr(-2),
-      min: 0,
-      max: 59,
-      wrap: true,
-      onchange: v => time.m = v
-    },
-    /*LANG*/"Day": {
-      value: date ? date.getDate() : null,
-      min: 1,
-      max: 31,
-      wrap: true,
-      onchange: v => date.setDate(v)
-    },
-    /*LANG*/"Month": {
-      value: date ? date.getMonth() + 1 : null,
-      format: v => require("date_utils").month(v),
-      onchange: v => date.setMonth((v+11)%12)
-    },
-    /*LANG*/"Year": {
-      value: date ? date.getFullYear() : null,
-      min: new Date().getFullYear(),
-      max: 2100,
-      onchange: v => date.setFullYear(v)
-    },
+    }
+  };
+
+  if (alarm.date && datetimeinput) {
+    menu[`${getDateText(date.toLocalISOString().slice(0,10))} ${require("time_utils").formatTime(time)}`] = {
+      value: date,
+      format: v => "",
+      onchange: v => {
+        setTimeout(() => {
+          var datetime = new Date(v.getTime());
+          datetime.setHours(time.h, time.m);
+          datetimeinput.input({datetime}).then(result => {
+            time.h = result.getHours();
+            time.m = result.getMinutes();
+            prepareAlarmForSave(alarm, alarmIndex, time, result, true);
+            setTimeout(showEditAlarmMenu, 10, alarm, alarmIndex, withDate, scroll, group);
+          });
+        }, 100);
+      }
+    };
+  } else {
+    Object.assign(menu, {
+      /*LANG*/"Hour": {
+        value: time.h,
+        format: v => ("0" + v).substr(-2),
+        min: 0,
+        max: 23,
+        wrap: true,
+        onchange: v => time.h = v
+      },
+      /*LANG*/"Minute": {
+        value: time.m,
+        format: v => ("0" + v).substr(-2),
+        min: 0,
+        max: 59,
+        wrap: true,
+        onchange: v => time.m = v
+      },
+      /*LANG*/"Day": {
+        value: date ? date.getDate() : null,
+        min: 1,
+        max: 31,
+        wrap: true,
+        onchange: v => date.setDate(v)
+      },
+      /*LANG*/"Month": {
+        value: date ? date.getMonth() + 1 : null,
+        format: v => require("date_utils").month(v),
+        onchange: v => date.setMonth((v+11)%12)
+      },
+      /*LANG*/"Year": {
+        value: date ? date.getFullYear() : null,
+        min: new Date().getFullYear(),
+        max: 2100,
+        onchange: v => date.setFullYear(v)
+      }
+    });
+  }
+
+  Object.assign(menu, {
     /*LANG*/"Message": {
       value: alarm.msg,
       format: formatAlarmProperty,
@@ -241,7 +273,7 @@ function showEditAlarmMenu(selectedAlarm, alarmIndex, withDate, scroll, group) {
       saveAndReload();
       showMainMenu(scroll, group);
     }
-  };
+  });
 
   if (!keyboard) delete menu[/*LANG*/"Message"];
   if (!keyboard || !settings.showGroup) delete menu[/*LANG*/"Group"];
diff --git a/apps/alarm/metadata.json b/apps/alarm/metadata.json
index 20969e6df..78cd4bd4e 100644
--- a/apps/alarm/metadata.json
+++ b/apps/alarm/metadata.json
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
   "id": "alarm",
   "name": "Alarms & Timers",
   "shortName": "Alarms",
-  "version": "0.47",
+  "version": "0.48",
   "description": "Set alarms and timers on your Bangle",
   "icon": "app.png",
   "tags": "tool,alarm",
diff --git a/apps/datetime_picker/ChangeLog b/apps/datetime_picker/ChangeLog
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..ef4afacd0
--- /dev/null
+++ b/apps/datetime_picker/ChangeLog
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+0.01: New drag/swipe date time picker, e.g. for use with dated events alarms
diff --git a/apps/datetime_picker/README.md b/apps/datetime_picker/README.md
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..8dac1dceb
--- /dev/null
+++ b/apps/datetime_picker/README.md
@@ -0,0 +1,9 @@
+# App Name
+
+Datetime Picker allows to swipe along the bars to select date and time elements, e.g. for the datetime of Events in the Alarm App.  As a standalone app, it allows to see the weekday of a given date and, once a datetime is selected, the number of days and time between that datetime and now.
+
+Screenshot: ![datetime with swipe controls](screenshot.png)
+
+## Controls
+
+Swipe to increase or decrease date and time elements.  Press button or go back to select shown datetime.
diff --git a/apps/datetime_picker/app-icon.js b/apps/datetime_picker/app-icon.js
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..89250ff58
--- /dev/null
+++ b/apps/datetime_picker/app-icon.js
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+require("heatshrink").decompress(atob("mEwgP/AAnfAgf9z4FD/AFE/gFECIoFB98+tv+voFB//C/99z3Z7+J84XC3/7DpAFhKYP3AgP3AoPAOQMD/v/84LB+Z2FABiDKPoqJFKaWe/P/9Pznuf+wKB/29z+2//uTYOeTYPtRMxZKQaPAh6hBnEBwEGAoMYgHf9+/dwP5A=="))
diff --git a/apps/datetime_picker/app.js b/apps/datetime_picker/app.js
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..7bc66f6c5
--- /dev/null
+++ b/apps/datetime_picker/app.js
@@ -0,0 +1,5 @@
+require("datetimeinput").input().then(result => {
+  E.showPrompt(`${result}\n\n${require("time_utils").formatDuration(Math.abs(result-Date.now()))}`, {buttons:{"Ok":true}}).then(function() {
+    load();
+  });
+});
diff --git a/apps/datetime_picker/app.png b/apps/datetime_picker/app.png
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..b7cb4b46b
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diff --git a/apps/datetime_picker/lib.js b/apps/datetime_picker/lib.js
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..c3e51ae4d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/apps/datetime_picker/lib.js
@@ -0,0 +1,145 @@
+exports.input = function(options) {
+  options = options||{};
+  var selectedDate;
+  if (options.datetime instanceof Date) {
+    selectedDate = new Date(options.datetime.getTime());
+  } else {
+    selectedDate = new Date();
+    selectedDate.setMinutes(0);
+    selectedDate.setSeconds(0);
+    selectedDate.setMilliseconds(0);
+    selectedDate.setHours(selectedDate.getHours() + 1);
+  }
+
+  var R;
+  var tip = {w: 12, h: 10};
+  var arrowRectArray;
+  var dragging = null;
+  var startPos = null;
+  var dateAtDragStart = null;
+  var SELECTEDFONT = '6x8:2';
+
+  function drawDateTime() {
+    g.clearRect(R.x+tip.w,R.y,R.x2-tip.w,R.y+40);
+    g.clearRect(R.x+tip.w,R.y2-60,R.x2-tip.w,R.y2-40);
+
+    g.setFont(SELECTEDFONT).setColor(g.theme.fg).setFontAlign(-1, -1, 0);
+    var dateUtils = require('date_utils');
+    g.drawString(selectedDate.getFullYear(), R.x+tip.w+10, R.y+15)
+    .drawString(dateUtils.month(selectedDate.getMonth()+1,1), R.x+tip.w+65, R.y+15)
+    .drawString(selectedDate.getDate(), R.x2-tip.w-40, R.y+15)
+    .drawString(`${dateUtils.dow(selectedDate.getDay(), 1)}  ${selectedDate.toLocalISOString().slice(11,16)}`, R.x+tip.w+10, R.y2-60);
+  }
+
+  let dragHandler = function(event) {
+    "ram";
+
+    if (event.b) {
+      if (dragging === null) {
+        // determine which component we are affecting
+        var rect = arrowRectArray.find(rect => rect.y2
+          ? (event.y >= rect.y && event.y <= rect.y2 && event.x >= rect.x - 10 && event.x <= rect.x + tip.w + 10)
+          : (event.x >= rect.x && event.x <= rect.x2 && event.y >= rect.y - tip.w - 5 && event.y <= rect.y + 5));
+        if (rect) {
+          dragging = rect;
+          startPos = dragging.y2 ? event.y : event.x;
+          dateAtDragStart = selectedDate;
+        }
+      }
+
+      if (dragging) {
+        dragging.swipe(dragging.y2 ? startPos - event.y : event.x - startPos);
+        drawDateTime();
+      }
+    } else {
+      dateAtDragStart = null;
+      dragging = null;
+      startPos = null;
+    }
+  };
+
+  let catchSwipe = ()=>{
+    E.stopEventPropagation&&E.stopEventPropagation();
+  };
+
+  return new Promise((resolve,reject) => {
+    // Interpret touch input
+    Bangle.setUI({
+      mode: 'custom',
+      back: ()=>{
+        Bangle.setUI();
+        Bangle.prependListener&&Bangle.removeListener('swipe', catchSwipe); // Remove swipe listener if it was added with `Bangle.prependListener()` (fw2v19 and up).
+        g.clearRect(Bangle.appRect);
+        resolve(selectedDate);
+      },
+      drag: dragHandler
+    });
+    Bangle.prependListener&&Bangle.prependListener('swipe', catchSwipe); // Intercept swipes on fw2v19 and later. Should not break on older firmwares.
+
+    R = Bangle.appRect;
+    g.clear();
+    Bangle.loadWidgets();
+    Bangle.drawWidgets();
+
+    function drawArrow(rect) {
+      if(rect.x2) {
+        g.fillRect(rect.x + tip.h, rect.y - tip.w + 4, rect.x2 - tip.h, rect.y - 4)
+        .fillPoly([rect.x + tip.h, rect.y, rect.x + tip.h, rect.y - tip.w, rect.x, rect.y - (tip.w / 2)])
+        .fillPoly([rect.x2-tip.h, rect.y, rect.x2 - tip.h, rect.y - tip.w, rect.x2, rect.y - (tip.w / 2)]);
+      } else {
+        g.fillRect(rect.x + 4, rect.y + tip.h, rect.x + tip.w - 4, rect.y2 - tip.h)
+        .fillPoly([rect.x, rect.y + tip.h, rect.x + tip.w, rect.y + tip.h, rect.x + (tip.w / 2), rect.y])
+        .fillPoly([rect.x, rect.y2 - tip.h, rect.x + tip.w, rect.y2 - tip.h, rect.x + (tip.w / 2), rect.y2]);
+      }
+
+    }
+
+    var yearArrowRect = {x: R.x, y: R.y, y2: R.y + (R.y2 - R.y) * 0.4, swipe: d => {
+      selectedDate = new Date(dateAtDragStart.valueOf());
+      selectedDate.setFullYear(dateAtDragStart.getFullYear() + Math.floor(d/10));
+      if (dateAtDragStart.getDate() != selectedDate.getDate()) selectedDate.setDate(0);
+    }};
+
+    var weekArrowRect = {x: R.x, y: yearArrowRect.y2 + 10, y2: R.y2 - tip.w - 5, swipe: d => {
+      selectedDate = new Date(dateAtDragStart.valueOf());
+      selectedDate.setDate(dateAtDragStart.getDate() + (Math.floor(d/10) * 7));
+    }};
+
+    var dayArrowRect = {x: R.x2 - tip.w, y: R.y, y2: R.y + (R.y2 - R.y) * 0.4, swipe: d => {
+      selectedDate = new Date(dateAtDragStart.valueOf());
+      selectedDate.setDate(dateAtDragStart.getDate() + Math.floor(d/10));
+    }};
+
+    var fifteenMinutesArrowRect = {x: R.x2 - tip.w, y: dayArrowRect.y2 + 10, y2: R.y2 - tip.w - 5, swipe: d => {
+      selectedDate = new Date(dateAtDragStart.valueOf());
+      selectedDate.setMinutes((((dateAtDragStart.getMinutes() - (dateAtDragStart.getMinutes() % 15) + (Math.floor(d/14) * 15)) % 60) + 60) % 60);
+    }};
+
+    var weekdayArrowRect = {x: R.x, y: R.y2, x2: (R.x2 - R.x) * 0.3 - 5, swipe: d => {
+      selectedDate = new Date(dateAtDragStart.valueOf());
+      selectedDate.setDate(dateAtDragStart.getDate() + Math.floor(d/10));
+    }};
+
+    var hourArrowRect = {x: weekdayArrowRect.x2 + 5, y: R.y2, x2: weekdayArrowRect.x2 + (R.x2 - R.x) * 0.38, swipe: d => {
+      selectedDate = new Date(dateAtDragStart.valueOf());
+      selectedDate.setHours((((dateAtDragStart.getHours() + Math.floor(d/10)) % 24) + 24) % 24);
+    }};
+
+    var minutesArrowRect = {x: hourArrowRect.x2 + 5, y: R.y2, x2: R.x2, swipe: d => {
+      selectedDate = new Date(dateAtDragStart.valueOf());
+      selectedDate.setMinutes((((dateAtDragStart.getMinutes() + Math.floor(d/7)) % 60) + 60) % 60);
+    }};
+
+    var monthArrowRect = {x: (R.x2 - R.x) * 0.2, y: R.y2 / 2 + 5, x2: (R.x2 - R.x) * 0.8, swipe: d => {
+      selectedDate = new Date(dateAtDragStart.valueOf());
+      selectedDate.setMonth(dateAtDragStart.getMonth() + Math.floor(d/10));
+      if (dateAtDragStart.getDate() != selectedDate.getDate()) selectedDate.setDate(0);
+    }};
+
+    arrowRectArray = [yearArrowRect, weekArrowRect, dayArrowRect, fifteenMinutesArrowRect,
+                  weekdayArrowRect, hourArrowRect, minutesArrowRect, monthArrowRect];
+
+    drawDateTime();
+    arrowRectArray.forEach(drawArrow);
+  });
+};
diff --git a/apps/datetime_picker/metadata.json b/apps/datetime_picker/metadata.json
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..df968589e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/apps/datetime_picker/metadata.json
@@ -0,0 +1,16 @@
+{ "id": "datetime_picker",
+  "name": "Datetime picker",
+  "shortName":"Datetime picker",
+  "version":"0.01",
+  "description": "Allows to pick a date and time by swiping.",
+  "icon":"app.png",
+  "tags":"datetimeinput",
+  "supports" : ["BANGLEJS2"],  
+  "readme": "README.md",
+  "screenshots" : [ { "url":"screenshot.png" } ],
+  "storage": [
+    {"name":"datetimeinput","url":"lib.js"},
+    {"name":"datetime_picker.app.js","url":"app.js"},
+    {"name":"datetime_picker.img","url":"app-icon.js","evaluate":true}
+  ]
+}
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