diff --git a/apps/daisy/ChangeLog b/apps/daisy/ChangeLog
index 829ff3d13..b13ce261b 100644
--- a/apps/daisy/ChangeLog
+++ b/apps/daisy/ChangeLog
@@ -5,3 +5,4 @@
 0.05: changed text to uppercase, just looks better, removed colons on text
 0.06: better contrast for light theme, use fg color instead of dithered for ring
 0.07: Use default Bangle formatter for booleans
+0.08: fix idle timer always getting set to true
diff --git a/apps/daisy/app.js b/apps/daisy/app.js
index 7c513726f..848cd1801 100644
--- a/apps/daisy/app.js
+++ b/apps/daisy/app.js
@@ -83,7 +83,7 @@ function loadSettings() {
   settings = require("Storage").readJSON(SETTINGS_FILE,1)||{};
   settings.gy = settings.gy||'#020';
   settings.fg = settings.fg||'#0f0';
-  settings.idle_check = settings.idle_check||true;
+  settings.idle_check = (settings.idle_check === undefined ? true : settings.idle_check);
   assignPalettes();
 }
 
diff --git a/apps/daisy/metadata.json b/apps/daisy/metadata.json
index 802ba6834..c6cc93620 100644
--- a/apps/daisy/metadata.json
+++ b/apps/daisy/metadata.json
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 { "id": "daisy",
   "name": "Daisy",
-  "version":"0.07",
+  "version":"0.08",
   "dependencies": {"mylocation":"app"},
   "description": "A beautiful digital clock with large ring guage, idle timer and a cyclic information line that includes, day, date, steps, battery, sunrise and sunset times",
   "icon": "app.png",
diff --git a/apps/pastel/ChangeLog b/apps/pastel/ChangeLog
index f4640426b..28dcc0c28 100644
--- a/apps/pastel/ChangeLog
+++ b/apps/pastel/ChangeLog
@@ -18,3 +18,4 @@
       added setting to enable/disable idle timer warning
 0.16: make check_idle boolean setting work properly with new B2 menu
 0.17: Use default Bangle formatter for booleans
+0.18: fix idle option always getting defaulted to true
diff --git a/apps/pastel/metadata.json b/apps/pastel/metadata.json
index 1fe176d5f..860ed833b 100644
--- a/apps/pastel/metadata.json
+++ b/apps/pastel/metadata.json
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
   "id": "pastel",
   "name": "Pastel Clock",
   "shortName": "Pastel",
-  "version": "0.17",
+  "version": "0.18",
   "description": "A Configurable clock with custom fonts, background and weather display. Has a cyclic information line that includes, day, date, battery, sunrise and sunset times",
   "icon": "pastel.png",
   "dependencies": {"mylocation":"app","weather":"app"},
diff --git a/apps/pastel/pastel.app.js b/apps/pastel/pastel.app.js
index 605b78ad0..05c0e2367 100644
--- a/apps/pastel/pastel.app.js
+++ b/apps/pastel/pastel.app.js
@@ -34,7 +34,7 @@ function loadSettings() {
   settings = require("Storage").readJSON(SETTINGS_FILE,1)||{};
   settings.grid = settings.grid||false;
   settings.font = settings.font||"Lato";
-  settings.idle_check = settings.idle_check||true;
+  settings.idle_check = (settings.idle_check === undefined ? true : settings.idle_check);
 }
 
 // requires the myLocation app